What is the shortest method to get most gold pieces (gp)

Okay, I think I will get to work on Secret of the Gnome lords, I noticed something weird last night when tryin to record data, first battle I got a couple level 18 items, but then I restarted and the level went down to 15 where I would think it would be. Ill get back with actual data later.

 

Yeah, it has been established that the loot item level can vary as much as 3 levels up or down based on the level of the adventure. Possibly even more. The other night I was doing the Lair of the Yellow Dragon and got a level 13 common treasure.

 

Not exactly sure how to upload the spreadsheet. But here is a link to the first 25 battles. Secret of the Gnome Lords first battle 25 times. Will keep working on it unless someone would rather me work somewhere else. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjG6tphzd5L7dDdvY1RwM1dJVkx1N0ZYd3d3REpVaEE&output=html

 

Thanks for the data! I'm not familiar with Google docs, maybe Piotras knows more. At least the data seems to be there.

 

If you would like to upload a spreadsheet to this forum for example (sorry if I misunderstood), you can download your spreadsheet as a excel file/pdf etc. (File->Download as->choose file type) and than use the forums upload tool.

While I'm here, here's the link to my stats (25ish for 17th lvl campaign normal chest, 30ish for normal and gold MP chests).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...NPcWhuVW5LMnR6TXdkQWRfN1E&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Not playing much but that's better than nothing, right?

A note about my golden MP chests - they are a good indication of what to expect if a club member plays his 3-6 MP games a day, but that's it. The golden chests do differ in rewards depending on which subsequent chest is opened, which I realised some time after starting to collect (and mix) the data. But I will continue to do so out of my own interest, to see what's worth more (i.e. 30 MP gold chests, or 'time equivalent' of eye-bleeding SP grind).

 

This is after 50 battles of Secret of the Gnome Lords. Got a legendary treasure on battle 42, must be fate rewarding me for helping lol. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjG6tphzd5L7dDdvY1RwM1dJVkx1N0ZYd3d3REpVaEE&output=html

Edited: After 61 battles, still working, got a second legend treasure at battle 55. Today has been my lucky day in both fantasy football and Card Hunter loot.

Edited: 75 battles in. Gonna call in a night and pick back up later.

 

I played the Level 7 adventure "Forest of Souls" battles 1 "Forest Border" and 2 "Sunlit Field" for a further 50 times each and got 300 items. Breakdown follows. The "All" amounts include the "Treasure" amounts.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	0,0 %
5	49	7	0	0	0	56	18,7 %
6	101	30	2	1	0	134	44,7 %
7	51	15	0	0	0	66	22,0 %
8	18	5	2	1	0	26	8,7 %
9	12	2	1	0	0	15	5,0 %
10	3	0	0	0	0	3	1,0 %
Tot	234	59	5	2	0	300	
	78,0 %	19,7 %	1,7 %	0,7 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	38	7	0	0	0	45	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	0	0	0	
8	0	0	2	0	0	2	
9	3	0	0	0	0	3	
10	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	41	7	2	0	0	50	16,7 %

 

The previous session on the same maps is here. The combined results of the two sessions look like this:

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
4	1	1	0	0	0	2	0,3 %
5	88	19	0	0	0	107	17,8 %
6	218	54	6	3	0	281	46,8 %
7	88	27	3	0	1	119	19,8 %
8	37	13	3	1	0	54	9,0 %
9	28	4	1	0	0	33	5,5 %
10	4	0	0	0	0	4	0,7 %
Tot	464	118	13	4	1	600	
	77,3 %	19,7 %	2,2 %	0,7 %	0,2 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	65	15	0	0	0	80	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	0	0	0	
8	0	0	3	0	0	3	
9	5	1	0	0	0	6	
10	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	70	16	3	0	0	89	14,8 %

 

Comparing the numbers from the two sessions reveals differences of up to 4.3 percentage points. The level 6 item % was 49.0 in the first session and 44.7 in the second. This is quite a big variance for these amounts. It strongly seems that even 300 items does not produce very reliable results. I don't know statistics well enough to know how many items we need to lower the statistical error to a good level and even what is a good enough level in this case.

Combining the results certainly evens the differences nicely. I wonder how many items from adventures of a particular level we'd need to hit diminishing returns; that is, at what number of items the percentages do not change much any more? I'll probably collect at least one more batch of 300 level 7 items to see what happens.

Based on this analysis the 200-300 items per level percentages in this thread need to be taken with a stone-sized grain of salt. It seems the statistical error with that kind of sample size can be rather large.

 

This is the most recent thread on farming, and I have a very interesting observation to share.

Even when animations are set to 10, there is still a millisecond's delay between each animation. This is particularly pronounced for spells like Firestorm that affect the entire board.

If you click frantically, it makes the animations go faster. I think clicking dismisses each spell before it auto-dismisses, if you know what I mean.

Try it out and see how it goes!

 

Yeah, the clicking is an essential speed-up technique especially with Firestorm farming, like you say.

Another fast-track farming trick is to go to a tavern when you Return to map. The taverns load a lot faster than any other locations you can go to. No more annoying waiting for a shop or an adventure to load just to immediately leave.

 

Try this - click on another adventure, click on cancel, and when your party icon is moving to the new adventure(be quick!), click back on the one that you were farming. Your party icon will change direction mid-flight, and go back to the farming adventure. This avoids having to load anything at all! Was really pleased with myself when I discovered this.

 

Thanks, Spacedust, that's a very good time-saving technique! Truly you are a farmer among farmers, respect!

 

I have been using this technique to farm, didnt realize people did not know about it or I would have said something too lol. Thanks spacedust!

 

I played the level 3 adventure "Lair of the Trog Wizard" battle 1 "Scuttler Warren" a further 100 times. This time it took me 3 hours instead of a little over 4 hours like last time. I used Spacedust's trick and a much more farming-optimized team. Loot breakdown follows.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
1	42	16	1	0	0	59	19,7 %
2	76	4	1	0	0	81	27,0 %
3	79	31	4	2	0	116	38,7 %
4	14	10	2	0	0	26	8,7 %
5	7	4	0	0	0	11	3,7 %
6	5	1	0	0	1	7	2,3 %
Tot	223	66	8	2	1	300	
	74,3 %	22,0 %	2,7 %	0,7 %	0,3 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
1	3	9	1	0	0	13	
2	30	0	0	0	0	30	
3	0	0	0	0	0	0	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	5	2	0	0	0	7	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	38	11	1	0	0	50	16,7 %

 

The combined results of the two sessions on that map (I didn't break down the first session in as much detail):

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
1						113	18,8 %
2						160	26,7 %
3						224	37,3 %
4						68	11,3 %
5						24	4,0 %
6						11	1,8 %
Tot	433	125	32	8	2	600	
	72,2 %	20,8 %	5,3 %	1,3 %	0,3 %		

Based on all later results in this thread it's unbelievable how many rares and epics I got in that first session. That's a reminder of how variable Card Hunter loot drop analysis results with a sample size of 300 can be.

 

Quick little anecdote, I recently renewed my membership because I got a legendary in the club membership that I wanted. The next adventure I got another legendary in the last chest. The next adventure I got a legendary treasure in the club membership. So I was happy that I renewed when I did. Three adventures in a row produced 3 legendary items. If I were keeping track that would have definitely skewed a smaller sample size. And that was playing them normally for XP.

 

I played the level 6 adventure The Defense of Woodhome, mostly battle 1: Woodhome Gates with a few battle 2: Woodhome Chapels thrown in, for a further 100 times.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	8	0	2	1	0	11	3,7 %
4	11	1	1	0	0	13	4,3 %
5	51	20	2	3	0	76	25,3 %
6	93	35	7	2	0	137	45,7 %
7	36	12	2	0	0	50	16,7 %
8	2	1	0	0	0	3	1,0 %
9	7	2	1	0	0	10	3,3 %
Tot	208	71	15	6	0	300	
	69,3 %	23,7 %	5,0 %	2,0 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	0	0	0	0	0	0	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	22	7	2	3	0	34	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	0	0	0	
8	0	0	0	0	0	0	
9	1	2	0	0	0	3	
Tot	23	9	2	3	0	37	12,3 %

 

If we add this result to Andrew's and my earlier runs from here the numbers look like this:

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Lv	Andrew	Jarmo	JarmoII	All	%
3	3	18	11	32	4,6 %
4	2	13	13	28	4,0 %
5	26	76	76	178	25,4 %
6	48	145	137	330	47,1 %
7	18	39	50	107	15,3 %
8	2	2	3	7	1,0 %
9	2	7	10	19	2,7 %
Tot	101	300	300	701	

 

And if we combine my two runs which were broken down in more detail we get the following.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	25	1	2	1	0	29	4,8 %
4	22	3	1	0	0	26	4,3 %
5	112	31	5	4	0	152	25,3 %
6	208	56	13	5	0	282	47,0 %
7	62	21	5	1	0	89	14,8 %
8	4	1	0	0	0	5	0,8 %
9	13	3	1	0	0	17	2,8 %
Tot	446	116	27	11	0	600	
	74,3 %	19,3 %	4,5 %	1,8 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	0	0	0	0	0	0	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	53	12	4	3	0	72	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	0	0	0	
8	0	0	0	0	0	0	
9	3	2	0	0	0	5	
Tot	56	14	4	3	0	77	12,8 %