[AotA] Expansion PVP cards discussion and feedback

Discussion in 'Testing' started by Phaselock, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. Jarmo

    Jarmo Snow Griffin

    Excellent point, Veza!
     
  2. Dash

    Dash Mushroom Warrior

    I just want to chime in and say that I really like the "Blessing of Granite" idea -- Armor 1 and Immovable are tied together by the stone flavor. I also like the idea of armor in an attachment generally -- it seems like a neat thing for Priests to do!

    EDIT -- and Stoneskin is a spell that Clerics/Druids have had in D&D for a long time, you could call it Stoneskin instead if you wanted!
     
  3. Jon

    Jon Blue Manchu Staff Member

    I agree. The card is being renamed to "Stone Feet" and the new rule text is:

    Attach to target. Target gains Armor 1 and cannot be moved to or placed in a new location by cards controlled by its enemies. Duration 3. May Self Target.
     
  4. Jacques

    Jacques Hydra

    I have a question about Sparkling Cloth Armor: if someone uses WoW to a character who has this armor, and the armor doesn't prevent the 1 point of damage (because you roll less than 3), what happens? Do you move it first and then your opponent moves it again? Or is it the contrary? That is a bit confusing.
     
  5. Flaxative

    Flaxative Party Leader

    Nice choice!
     
  6. Phaselock

    Phaselock Bugblatter

    iirc, SCA first then WoW.
     
  7. Jon

    Jon Blue Manchu Staff Member

    That's what I would expect, since the armor triggers, interrupting the card effect.
     
  8. Jacques

    Jacques Hydra

    Don't know what iirc means, but I got it, you move first, then the wow. Thanks

    Edit: so, I understand that the movement comes first in any situation , right? That means that even if you get hit by an encumber attack you get to move 3 first, regardless of the encumber effect?
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2014
  9. Jon

    Jon Blue Manchu Staff Member

    Well, technically, triggers happen before the effects that they are triggered from. So Armor stops damage before the damage is applied, etc.
     
  10. Jon

    Jon Blue Manchu Staff Member

    Barbed Platemail now does 4 damage to the attacker and that damage is Penetrating.

    I also increased the damage on Jumpspark from 2 to 3 to make it more of a threat.
     
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  11. Phaselock

    Phaselock Bugblatter

    iirc - if I recall correctly. After the first hundred or so test commands, everything becomes a blur... =)

    iirc, this is how it works. eg: frost jolt
    a) frost jolt from attacker apply 4 dam against target's SCA armor 1.
    b) target suffers 3/4 dam. Frost jolt attached to target.
    c) game checks target's cards in hand followed by attachment. So SCA's move 3 triggers 1st, followed by frost jolt's encumber 2. Total move space = 3-2 = 1.

    Hope it helps. :)
     
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  12. Phaselock

    Phaselock Bugblatter

    erm, is this considered as an Assist/Armor hybrid card ?
     
  13. Phaselock

    Phaselock Bugblatter

    Not a bug but Sparkling cloth armor creates another fancy effect, via spiked mail.

    Banironhoh bashes Barazdron
    Barazdron spikes his attacker.
    Sparkling Cloth Armor reduced damage to Banironhoh by 1.
    Cloth Armor failed!
    Banironhoh took 1 Piercing damage.
    Banironhoh moved.
    Barazdron took 3 Crushing damage.
    Barazdron moved.
    Banironhoh moved.

    Bani Pressing Bashed Bara, got spiked, triggered SCA, moved 3 AWAY from Bara. 3 dam applied to Bara and Pressing Bash's Move 1 activated. A 4 tile move possible due to spiked mail, since barbed platemail is getting penetrating.

    My head aches...
     
  14. Jon

    Jon Blue Manchu Staff Member

    No, it's not an Armor card. An Armor card would trigger to prevent damage while in your hand.
     
  15. Phaselock

    Phaselock Bugblatter

    So 'Target gains Armor 1' is a passive increment to existing armor modifiers in hand ? Armor 5 from enchanted mail becomes Armor 6 effectively ? or some other mechanic ?
     
  16. Jon

    Jon Blue Manchu Staff Member

    It works exactly like Armor, but only when it is attached to a target.
     
  17. Phaselock

    Phaselock Bugblatter

    So its an armor that triggers from attachment, gotcha. I suppose the armor reduction is only active in damage phase of calculation while the immovable effect procs only in the effect phase, ie, armor triggers before immovable when attached. Procs altruism only when casting, right ?
     
  18. Jon

    Jon Blue Manchu Staff Member

    That's what I would expect (armor effect, then immovable effect).

    It would trigger Altruism on being cast.
     
  19. Phaselock

    Phaselock Bugblatter

    Pressing Bash: Slide Back 1. When this card takes effect, Move 1.

    What does 'When this card takes effect' mean ? I'm able to move 1 regardless of whether the target has slided back. I suppose its wai, just wanted to be sure.
     
  20. Phaselock

    Phaselock Bugblatter

    If you pushback parry a target with path of knives attached after a step attack, its possible to get 6 damage off and net a kill. Eww...
     
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