The return of the trait-triggering-in-hand bug!

Discussion in 'Bugs' started by ParodyKnaveBob, May 25, 2016.

  1. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    I've slightly reformatted this post to keep a list. Post yours, too, everyone! $:^ J

    TRAITS CONFIRMED TO TRIGGER IN HAND

    Impetuous Blast triggered Spark Generator in hand.
    I started up a game of Artifact Anarchy. Right off the bat, round 1, turn 1, (I went first,) my Whorl (with an o) had Imp Blast and Spark Generator. I decided to play Imp Blast first. ~shrug~ For no good reason, Blast triggered Generator from my hand. Here's the full, simple battle log, bolded for emphasis:

    Riptide drew Run.
    Riptide drew Clumsy Chop.
    Riptide drew Strong Chop.
    Riptide drew Parry.
    Blackhammer drew Run.
    Blackhammer drew Fly.
    Blackhammer drew Pressing Bash.
    Blackhammer drew Healing Benediction.
    Whorl drew Run.
    Whorl drew Spark Generator.
    Whorl drew Flash of Agony.
    Whorl drew Impetuous Blast.
    Hightide drew Run.
    Hightide drew a card.
    Hightide drew a card.
    Hightide drew a card.
    Darkhammer drew Run.
    Darkhammer drew a card.
    Darkhammer drew a card.
    Darkhammer drew a card.
    Whirl drew Run.
    Whirl drew a card.
    Whirl drew a card.
    Whirl drew a card.
    Whorl blasts uncontrollably!
    Whorl generates sparks

    Riptide took 6 Arcane damage.
    Blackhammer took 6 Arcane damage.
    Whorl drew Jumpspark.
    Whorl plays Spark Generator.
    Whorl drew Surging Bolt.
    Blackhammer runs
    Blackhammer moved.

    My opp unfortunately disconnected; therefore, that really is the entire log. Furthermore, I would've loved to've given you the full console battle log, but Chrome + low RAM will drop tabs from memory if there's no sound playing, and I came to the forum while on the victory-by-inactivity screen, which of course has no sound playing. $:^ [

    Good news is this should be super simple to reproduce, eh? The other spark/arcane boost trait probably needs testing, too.

    Impetuous Slash triggered Wimpy in hand.

    Impetuous Heal triggered Talented Healer in hand.
    Vampire Form triggered Talented Healer in hand.
     
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2016
  2. DupleX

    DupleX Champion of Cardhuntria

    I'm not entirely sure this is a bug, boosts can trigger in hand so shouldn't trait boosts trigger as well? (for example Uncanny Dodge).
     
  3. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    Thanks for the feedback, DupleX, but re-read Jon's statement I quoted.
     
  4. DupleX

    DupleX Champion of Cardhuntria

    If that is the rule maybe the wording of the trait keyword needs to include something to that effect.

    EDIT: will something like Immovable trigger in hand?
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2016
  5. Scarponi

    Scarponi Moderator

    Some traits do, some don't. I have not found a consistent patter of which do or don't. As far as Immovable goes, I haven't tested that one.
     
  6. Flaxative

    Flaxative Party Leader

    It would be useful if players could compile a list of the traits that trigger in hand if possible. :)
     
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  7. DupleX

    DupleX Champion of Cardhuntria

    I suspect any trait with a trigger can trigger in hand, here is Impetuous Slash triggering Wimpy in hand:
    BATTLE LOG: Player=TestpleX2,Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX2's battle vs TestpleX,RoomID=224,Event=PlayAction,Action=Impetuous Slash,Instigator=Girtslotch,Targets=
    startTimer 1 1180
    BATTLE LOG: Player=TestpleX2,Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX2's battle vs TestpleX,RoomID=224,Event=TriggerSucceed,Trigger=Wimpy,TriggeringActor=Girtslotch,AffectedActors=,TriggerType=Action,TriggerLocation=Hand

    Here is Impetuous Heal triggering Talented Healer in hand:
    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Msg=TestpleX must play a Trait
    BATTLE LOG: Player=TestpleX,Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Event=PlayAction,Action=Impetuous Heal,Instigator=Negative Nelly,Targets=
    stopTimer 1 1191
    BATTLE LOG: Player=TestpleX,Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Event=TriggerSucceed,Trigger=Talented Healer,TriggeringActor=Negative Nelly,AffectedActors=,TriggerType=Unknown,TriggerLocation=Hand
    startTimer 1 1191
    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Msg=Negative Nelly healed 2
    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Msg=Negative Nancy healed 6
    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Msg=Negative Nichole healed 6
    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Msg=Negative Nelly healed 6
    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Msg=TestpleX drew Impetuous Heal for Negative Nelly
    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Temple Tussle,Room=TestpleX's battle vs TestpleX2,RoomID=226,Msg=TestpleX must play a Trait
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2016
  8. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    Pretty funny interaction here while ransacking the greatest adventurer in all of Cardhuntria.

    CH-bug-Vampire-Form-triggers-Talented-Healer-in-hand.jpg

    Thanks to Advanced Vampirism, I had Vampire Form and Talented Healer in hand. Hey hey, gimme another Vampire card if I'm gonna be Talented, right? I played Vampire Form first. Because I played a card with the Heal keyword, it triggered Talented Healer (surprising and funny! um, yay adding Cantrip to a Trait? lol) which is fine -- except the problem was, of course, Talented was still in hand. (Fwiw, Anne Athema had full HP, hence gaining 0 instead of 2.)

    The key line:
    Event=TriggerSucceed,Trigger=Talented Healer,TriggeringActor=[SRC] Anne Athema,AffectedActors=,TriggerType=Unknown,TriggerLocation=Hand

    (I said key line, @DunDunDun. No pie this time.)
     

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    Last edited: Dec 19, 2016
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  9. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    The point of the above post: Talented Healer triggers in hand. In case it's too whimsical and easily skipped. $;^ ]

    The point of this post: Defensiveness triggers in hand.

    CH-bug-Defensiveness-triggers-in-hand.jpg

    And just confirming the "mini-attachments don't appear bug" didn't hide a Defensiveness already attached:

    upload_2021-12-20_3-56-11.png

    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Dripping Grave,Room=VISC (ParodyKnaveBob),RoomID=24702,Msg=ParodyKnaveBob must play a Trait
    BATTLE LOG: Player=ParodyKnaveBob,Scenario=Dripping Grave,Room=VISC (ParodyKnaveBob),RoomID=24702,Event=PlayAction,Action=Demonic Revenge,Instigator=Quinn the Stout [WC],Targets=
    BATTLE LOG: Player=ParodyKnaveBob,Scenario=Dripping Grave,Room=VISC (ParodyKnaveBob),RoomID=24702,Event=TriggerSucceed,Trigger=Defensiveness,TriggeringActor=Quinn the Stout [WC],AffectedActors=,TriggerType=Action,TriggerLocation=Hand
    BATTLE LOG: Scenario=Dripping Grave,Room=VISC (ParodyKnaveBob),RoomID=24702,Msg=Demonic Revenge was cancelled.

    Trigger=Defensiveness, ... TriggerLocation=Hand
     
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  10. Flaxative

    Flaxative Party Leader

    Wow, I forgot that I had looked into this 5 years ago. It's something I rediscovered recently and am working on fixing. Thanks for the additional catch on Defensiveness!
     

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