Talented Healer produces an avalanche of cards

Good to know thanks Jon!

 

I have to say the similarity of function with Altruism seems to make this card a bit redundant. While they differ slightly in execution the feel and practical use of them are so close to identical I wonder if there isn't a better way to implement one of them to make them more divergent. Perhaps as altruism (as a principle) is about helping others without personal gain then when it procs perhaps the target draws a card instead of the caster? How about if Talented Healer instead of causing a card draw removes a negative buff on the target, automatically or with a die roll?

 

Than it would be terrible.

 

Terribly indeed!

 

You just made a powerful enemy. You will rue the day you spellchecked me!

 

Don't quite understand "much smaller set of cards". TH triggers off unholy cards as well, while Altruism doesn't.

 

I can say if Talented Healer always proc'd on use, that would be what I'd use exclusively. If it's consistent you can build a deck around it allowing you to cycle cards at a ridiculous rate. Any card that forces a draw just makes your deck more efficient (especially with the aforementioned Holy Armour). I thought the wave of cards from TH would see it nerfed as soon as I experienced it, but there was no question as to it's efficacy or superiority to Altrusim.

 

Holy armor is the main offender right now as long as it only procs on cards it will be interesting to see how it works out.

 

So, basically, it's back to the "ways to make this list smaller" pile: limit it to Holy cards; limit it to played cards and not to triggered healing effects; and whatever else people have suggested.

And on that front: if you heal three different people with a single play, Talented Healer gives you three new cards, right? I just want to be clear on that so I can repeat: limit it to one card per play instead of X cards per play.

 

TH now rolls a die for each heal, success draws a card from deck. So, healing burst could potentially empty your deck or give you no cards at all.

edit: TH is intentionally designed as a better card than Altruism, going by titlebar color. So the problem isn't about making the 'list' smaller but whether it is too OPed.

edit2: too lazy to make a new post.
a) chance of HA+TH drawing at least 1 card = 43.75% per hit
b) chance of HA+TH drawing exactly 1 card = 18.75% per hit
c) chance of HA+TH drawing exactly 2 cards = 18.75% per hit
d) chance of Inspiring Armor drawing 1 card = 66.67% per hit

 

Just to reopen this, the "Talented Lifestealer" seems completely over the top. I just had Invigorating Touch proc talented healer, giving me another one, and then a Draining Touch. 6 damage, 6 healing *and* and another card seems broken for such an easy to set up combo.

 

I disagree if this is what you want to do with your deck have fun its not broken in my opinion.

 

That's actually not how it's currently working. If your *target* is not at full health when you lifedrain them, then you get the card. You can keep drawing cards until they're dead, even if you're at full health when you start.

My first attempts to abuse this have been a bit weak, but when it works it's really, really obnoxious, especially on maps where one crazed vampire priest can cover all the victory squares. I need more lifesteal, though. I don't know if Wozarg's right, or I just don't have the right cards/strategy yet. I'll keep working on it.

 

The interactions of Martyr's Blessing and Talented Healer allow priests to generate a *lot* of cards, and both cards allow you to start cycling through quickly to get the other.

The really notable ones are the three cards that give you a 2-card draw:
Misguided Heal - it procs of either of them, so it's great to cycle though, and you get a small heal & 2 cards
Demonic Pain, where you draw 2 cards
Unholy Power, where the recipient draws 3 cards if they're a Martyr

There are some others that are interesting
Demonic Feedback draws 3 cards, but does 5 damage.
Accelerated Thought

I'm not winning a lot with it - yet - but I'm still missing some key cards (I've only got 3 items with Martyr at all, and only one Shoddy Healing Token), and I'm still refining it and making a lot of noob mistakes.

I'm already a little concerned about how obnoxious it is, though - it can't be much fun to play against. Spike damage can kill one of them, but otherwise they camp the victory points, heal back to full every turn (one of the highlights of the build is that you get to just stand in lava and heal through it), and every now and then one of them will have an opportunity to dash over and pummel someone to death.

Something to keep an eye on.