Suggestion for the Micro Transactions

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by SurgeonFish, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. SurgeonFish

    SurgeonFish Automaton Moderator Staff Member

    I read a post by Jon here

    My suggestion, dont do "In-Game" purchased currency. It frustrates me to no end to play games like League of legends that do this weird odd number currency so if you ever buy currency, you always have that like 140 in your bank you cant buy anything with!

    Ok, maybe not doing it entirely is a little overboard, but please do it in a way where we can spend every little point of currency. Or perhaps in a way like Team Fortress 2 does it where you spend exact amount of money for your item.

    Anyway just my 2 cents
     
  2. Rising Zan

    Rising Zan Mushroom Warrior

    What I do like about how League of Legends and D&D online do it is they give you a point system with which you work long and hard to get enough points to earn new things. Of course the process is very long and tedious so it pushes people into just buying points to get the extras instead. I'm not talking about cards, but maybe for new decks booster packs or for the shop where you can by single individual cards.

    But maybe have certain things that you can only by with money like with Lol, how you can by rune pages, and character skins with money only.
     
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  3. SurgeonFish

    SurgeonFish Automaton Moderator Staff Member

    I don't have any trouble getting enough points to buy the new champions in LoL, but in D&D i can see it. I just don't want a situation where if i do buy the real money turned to points, i don't have to over purchase to make sure i get what i need just to have left overs. If they were to go with it then have something like this scenario

    e.x. (I put $10 in the game to recieve 50 Card Hunter Purchase Points. The card i want is Parry which costs 40 Purchase Points, so i buy that and the card Chop which is 10 purchase points leaving me with 0 left over.) something to buy so that it wont leave me with extra points that i cant get back into my bank account.
     
  4. Sir Knight

    Sir Knight Sir-ulean Dragon

    My main thought on in-game purchases is . . . please, for the sake of any self-respect you have as game designers, never ruin the play balance to make money.

    Spending money, just like spending effort, should bring a reward. But there's more than one type of reward. In psychology, we call it "positive reinforcement" when effort brings forth something new and enjoyable, like a snazzy new card or enhanced visuals. Too many designers instead use negative reinforcement: deliberately making a bad and boring play experience, then telling you that you can take away the boredom by spending money. Fork over some cash to speed up loot collection? Okay, fine . . . so long as loot collection is never unfairly slow in the first place.

    You've already suggested you would stay on the side of the light. Please remain there.
     
  5. skip_intro

    skip_intro Ogre

    I've never yet forked over cash to make a bad game experience good. I simply don't play anymore.

    However, I'm happy to spend points on Lord of the Rings Online as that makes a good experience better. Plus I'm a bit of a costume junkie, truth be told. :oops:
     
  6. Strumiker

    Strumiker Mushroom Warrior

    Chalk me up for no bundled point system. I can tell you, I would have purchased many more Arcade games on the xbox 360 if it I didn't have to pay for more points than what I want to use. Although, I think they may have changed that (making 2 bundles equal a typical game with 0 leftovers)? Let me just PayPal you that $10 for the new Campaign, not $12.99 for 1350 (ooh 50 bonus!) points :)

    Station Cash for EQ2 is the same way, as far as bundles. There are opportunities to get a lot of very similar items in game without paying, but if you want to pay a little, you can have something just a bit different. Of course you won't have to do the work to get it... then again you did just quest at work for 8 hours :p It would be swell if this was similar... maybe we could pay a couple bucks to have some different board skins, but you could also work for some other ones that you can't buy via in game somehow. Maybe you could unlock a bloodied table after killing 1000 goblins, or you could buy a table that looks like a massacre just happened on it :p
     
  7. Hopibear

    Hopibear Mushroom Warrior

    I am vouching for direct pay for scenario's etc.
    Like Surgeonfish said , I don't want to pay for an intermediate point system and then cash in the points for the products.

    But then again , you can use it to trade with other people.
     
  8. skip_intro

    skip_intro Ogre

    I'm ambivalent to the idea of points bundles - I use them in LotRO and it doesn't irk me. I do use them in combination with in-game points earning and sales, so I maximise their value. Companies do the "have 50 points left over" as a psychological tug on the wallet and therefore increase sales / profits.

    Turbine have tripled their earnings on D&D Online and LotRO after adopting a 'free to play' model which uses in-game and purchased points, for example.
     
  9. Strumiker

    Strumiker Mushroom Warrior

    There were too many things that weren't there in LotRO after they went f2p, that my wife and I got used to. We tried it for a little while, but after hitting blocks in certain aspects of the game, we just wanted to either sub or not play - just as before :p Same with DDO. I do know that their model works, as my sister-in-law ended up paying more than if she would have just kept and active sub for a year. Now that's the extreme, but it makes sense how a little bit here and there can add up fairly fast and probably more than 14.99 or 9.99 a month.
     
  10. Imchuckbass

    Imchuckbass Kobold

    Id be happy to pay a few dollars for extra dungeon crawls (opportunity to get a rare card) etc. Hopefully not guranteed, but a harder map to beat for a chance at something worthwhile.
    Not much of a fan of the cosmetic items.
     
  11. skip_intro

    skip_intro Ogre

    The thing I like about the LotRO f2p model is that I don't want to pay a regular subscription, but when I come into a bit of spare cash, I can spend it or 'bank it' in-game.
     
  12. Strumiker

    Strumiker Mushroom Warrior

    That's a good way to look at it. I might just either be too cheap or just used to paying subs (even though i shouldn't afford it sometimes :p) to want to spend too much there. Actually, we were lucky in that we were subbed for the last few months before it went f2p, so we got a handful of Turbine Points from that... and yet they are still sitting there unused :oops:
     
  13. skip_intro

    skip_intro Ogre

    Buy some new hats. There's always a hat on sale in the store. :D
     
  14. Higginjoe

    Higginjoe Kobold

    If a cash-to-point system is used, I highly, highly recommend having denominations equal to the most common prices of things. It's annoyed me to no end that the PSN and XBLA have a large number of games for $15 (or its equivalent), but no option to just add $15 worth of credit to the console. You either have to spend $20 or (and this is a petty complaint complaint, really) do two transactions, one for $10 and one for $5.
     
  15. skip_intro

    skip_intro Ogre

    That's the psychology of it - many gamers will add the extra $5 as it's less hassle to do one transaction.
     
  16. Higginjoe

    Higginjoe Kobold

    Then I'm trolling them by not, or the psychology doesn't work on me. Maybe having a degree in it makes me immune? O_O

    I just have to be more conservative with my money.
     
  17. skip_intro

    skip_intro Ogre

    You may be the exception rather than the rule. Companies make cash from the majority in cases like that, so it's no biggie if a few slip through their clutches. ;)
     

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