Get More Stuff: Changes are Coming to the Card Hunter Economy

After just doing Dungeon of the Swamp King this makes me shiver.

 

Please don't increase Death Melds radius! Oozes are annoying enough.

 

Hmmm...any chance this could be retroactive? Yes, I'm one of the "quest reset" crowd too.

 

Rudolpho Emulio @RudolphoCH · Sep 30
.@Manb0t - Increased radius of Death Meld from 1 to 3.

Woah. More difficult adventure (adventures?) incoming?!

 

Death Meld to 3 range = no burst mages, no waiting for start round trigger damage to off oozes and no chops, really. It will make level four of Swamp King tricksy for beginners, but experienced players will still clean it up with two warrior / one support priest combos. Card cycle + heavy stab cards for the zombie king + MF/nimbus/martyr's/heal + targeting one ooze at a time will do it. I struggled with this level quite a bit until I dropped the mage out of the party and went heavy hitter.

 

been using 2 frenzied obliterating chop warriors + 1 priest for swamp king awhile now, I carry a few crushing attacks for the 2nd stage skellies so as not to switch loadout, Occasionally can chop slimes from full hp to dead so heal doesn't matter too much.

Maybe not ideal but it gets the job done

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Slimy Priest
Level 20 Human Priest

Demon's Golden Blade
Nimbus Blade
Mail Of The Martyr
Hexagon Shield
Bertha's Big Clogs
Bleneth's Frenzy Medallion
Black Token
St. Bethan's Charm
Novice Command
Manifold Healer
​

1 x Polearm Slash
3 x Mass Frenzy
1 x Surging Shield Block
3 x Obliterating Chop
2 x Martyr Blessing
1 x Reliable Mail
1 x Officer's Harness
1 x Demonic Revenge
1 x Help The Weak
1 x Horned Plates
1 x Triple Heals
1 x Strong Bash
1 x Cautious Sneak
1 x Vulnerable
1 x Fiery Stab
1 x Unholy Wellspring
1 x Run, Team!
1 x Demonic Feedback
1 x Walk
1 x Touch Of Death
2 x Talented Healer
3 x Impenetrable Nimbus
2 x Unholy Frenzy
2 x Pushback Parry
1 x Savage Curse
1 x Team Heal
​

Dwarf Slimester
Level 21 Dwarf Warrior

Reaper's Scythe
The Strongarm
Mazzaram's Mighty Mattock
Xander's Mail
Jaguar Buckler
Necalli Cap
Dorimer's Boots
Raging Rock
Angry Attacker
​

1 x Escaping Run
1 x Obliterating Bludgeon
1 x Flanking Move
3 x Able Bludgeon
5 x Obliterating Chop
2 x All Out Attack
1 x Impaler
2 x Quickness Aura
1 x Surging Shield Block
1 x Weak Strike
1 x Disorienting Block
2 x Dodge
1 x Toughness
1 x Reliable Mail
3 x Blind Rage
5 x Strong Hack
1 x Pushback Parry
1 x Quick Run
2 x Officer's Harness
1 x Bruiser
​

Slimed Dwarf
Level 21 Dwarf Warrior

Master's Battleaxe
Bloodchopper
Maquah Of Ancient Blood
Spiked Platemail
Hexagon Shield
Necalli Cap
Corian's Boots
Raging Rock
Savvy Attacker
​

1 x Impaler
1 x Bloodied Block
2 x Pushback Parry
1 x Trained Bludgeon
1 x Reliable Mail
5 x Obliterating Chop
1 x Slicer
1 x All Out Attack
2 x Unnerving Strike
2 x Quickness Aura
1 x Nimble Strike
2 x Officer's Harness
3 x Strong Hack
1 x Shimmering Aura
1 x Toughness
1 x Powerful Hack
1 x Surging Shield Block
2 x Blind Rage
1 x Quick Step
2 x Ouch!
2 x Strong Chop
1 x Horned Plates
1 x Team Run
​

 

Is there any point to this, other than making chops and burst wizards less playable in The Viscous Tombs, The Pools of Slime, and Dungeon of the Swamp King? Based upon forum posts, many (if not most) players hit a wall when encountering the first slimes. Most new players will probably still be running a 1/1/1 at this point. Considering the nerfs to Highway Robbery and Ruby Demon Portal, this seems exactly backwards.

 

Maybe it's gonna be on player items soon?

 

UiA, how much does it take you to finish map with this party?

 

We're kinda way off topic here, but I'll run with it...

That really has me worried. The astral maps are already the most difficult / annoying maps aside from AotA lvl18, even with super-awesome-legendary builds. *shrug* I'm sure Jon knows what he's doing, and it's not like I play those maps anyways, even when the fairy pops up there. ^_^

 

Might as well. I started a new thread for tweets, but people seem to like this one better. We can always blame Flax for posting the Twitter link on the previous page.
There are all kinds of changes being posted, but very few specifics. I believe Jon knows what he's doing. I'm just wondering whether we're going to like it.

 

I'm hoping what they are going to say is that they want to make playing the campaign more rewarding, but in order to do that they have to raise the difficulty. And when I say more rewarding I mean more and/or better loot.

So this may translate into taking more time to complete the adventures, but in the end we'll end up with more items. One of the issues that neoncat has said is that SP is great to get gold and MP is great to get items when it seems like the player-base wants it to be the other way around. Maybe this is a step in switching that.

 

Increasing the baseline difficulty of the campaign is definitely not the goal. Hopefully we can get more info to you guys soon about what the goal is

 

not sure never timed it, its consistent and generally fast though.

 

Do you think it's faster than fire? I have fire wizards for Dungeon of the Swamp King (volcanos, wall's of fire, controll, firestorm, fireballs etc..) .. and they never lose and are quite fast .. ~10-12minutes.
I've tried 2war+pri .. and it seemed slower and not near that consistent.. but I'll try your build .. if anything it's more interesting playing melee

 

Wow, I'm like super behind on CH news (thesis mode on), but I like what I see!

 

Any update on when this will be rolled out?

 

Sounds great, im newish to the game (about 1 month), and still grinding the campain to get the gear to be good for pvp. Anything that makes the campain harder (in terms of more thought required) is great to break up the same old routines. i'm finding it very hard when you know what gear you 'need' to get that gear. for example there was 1 item i needed and it took me 3 weeks to farm lv 13 runs to find 1 of the item. Us newer players need faster ways to get loot so we can play the real game (pvp) and stand a chance. (yes you can buy pizza, i did that spent $100 and did not find any of the items i needed). Also 1 addition I think would be great would be when in single player to be able to see the multiplayer chats and to see who is online so when a friend comes online you know. Great game, keep it up, here for the long haul. Led (1st post)

 

Thanks, Jon. Glad to hear the strategy behind some of the changes to SP!