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You can search for items using the item search form. Obsolete items are not included by this search. You can also look at specific cards to find items associated with said cards.

 

Yes, and both searches are very useful for certain purposes. For a quick general overview of the names of the items available at each level (with drill-down capability), I haven't found an uncluttered search. I find such a search very useful and have lately often performed them.

As I'm sure you're perfectly aware, there are many ways to achieve this other than leaving obsolete items out of the free text search results, although I do feel it would almost always make a lot more sense to leave them out. For example, the item search form could have an input for item level (or even better, a level range) combined with an "Any" radio button for item type.

In any case, thanks for your time and the quick answer!

 

Thanks for the feedback, I'm currently reviewing the item search form to expand on features. Will take your feedback into account.

 

Thank you, Phaselock, I couldn't ask for anything more.

 

Changelog (16 Oct 2013)

484 obsolete items removed.
Item search form now caters for rarity search. Power token legend removed, jscript hack inserts token images in option. Trimmed power token options.
Power token column in all search results tables shifted beside item level.
Block keyword updated.
Solid Wood updated.

 

Great, thanks, Phaselock! Searching for all items of a certain level, for example, is now much more convenient and efficient to use. No more slogging through dusty archival items. Your continuing efforts are greatly appreciated.

 

New thing \o/

Build 1.35:

Robes Items Added (1):
Imp-proof Robes

Weapon Items Updated (1):
Weapon: Massive Harm - Item Changes:
ImageName: Massive -> massive

 

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The Card Hunter unofficial wiki is officially one year old. To the developers, contributors and all the fans of Card Hunter: Here's to another year, Happy Birthday !

Sorry, will do a proper render next year !

 

I just ran into this: Lucerne Hammer "This item is no longer in game". I wonder if there are any other stragglers?

 

Deleted thanks.

 

Phaselock, what's your current thinking on adding "Item type: Any" and an item level widget to the Item Search Form? Shall we get those at all? At some point? Or some alternate method / page for accomplishing the same end?

Currently it's quite work-intensive to perform analyses such as this one as you need to separately search for every item type. Does having "Item type: Any" on the form lead to such an expensive query that it's the reason it's not on there already? Or some other technical conundrum?

The current functionalities are of course a very big help and duly appreciated.

 

I've tested Itemtype: Any query searches and they tend to return very large data sets often causing the query to timeout, which is why its not in there. Just finished categorizing all items across levels. Planning to integrate item level display into database snapshots after halloween stuff gets done. For now, you should be able to search items via categories (eg: lvl 18 weapons and lvl 18 legendary weapons). Hope it helps.

 

Thanks for the info! I've been heavily using those category searches already, they're very helpful. Thank you very much for your categorizing efforts!

If there was a "Category:Level_xx_Item" or "Category:Level_xx" or "Category:Level_xx_Any" that would also take care of these needs quite well. Is just this what you mean by "integrate item level display into database snapshots"? I'm not that familiar with the system jargon.

 

Changelog (23rd Oct 2013)

All items categorized across levels (eg: lvl 18 weapons, lvl 18 legendary weapons and lvl 18 items).
Added upcoming halloween themed pvp maps.
Added Collector's corner.
Added Halloween costumes in Cuthbert's.
Added collector's item section with Halloween items.

 

Great work once again, Phaselock! Thank you very much for making this shared hobby that much more enjoyable and friction-free!

 

Been thinking about the issues with slow queries on search etc. I've no experience with semantic mediawiki, so excuse me if I'm saying nonsensical stuff, but maybe you want to setup appropriate indexes in the db.

As a matter of fact, your average dbms (including mysql) shall have absolutely no problems executing fast queries on very large datasets. It goes without saying that it's up to the db designer to setup indexes in a way select satements can be executed in the shortest possible time. You can read more about indexes in mysql here.

Obviously queries will still take some time if you query for all the rows in a large set, but well constructed queries can be executed faster (by several orders of magnitude) if the appropriate indexes are set up in advance.

 

Now I'm sorry to even bring this up after all of your hard work already, Phaselock, but what is your current thinking on potential categories "Level_<nn>_<rarity>_Item" and "<rarity>_Item"? Currently if I want to see all level 18 epic items or all epic items I need to compile them from 18 searches/categories. I thought of this because I was looking for such categories just now, I could have used them.

What does creating a new category involve? Do you need to manually add each new category to each item? I'm ready to put my typing fingers where my mouth is and participate in the work. You've done quite enough on your own, I'm sure. Or is this more non-shareable background programming, not crowd-sourceable work like wiki editing?

 

Again, talking as someone with little expertise, but I think you can create categories both in a manual (adding categories to single pages) or programmatic way (applying the category to all pages which satisfy a given set of conditions).

 

Semantic mediawiki (SMW) automatically indexes all the semantic data. There is no performance issue if you use the inbuilt semantic search to pull all 1900+ items and raw associated text data. Performance takes a hit only when the inline query parser function is used. This is further compounded by item pngs (which uses another set of codes from another extension) and the Semantic Forms extension plus the wiki is on shared hosting instead of a dedicated server. To maintain reliable QoS, I decided to make adjustments to the item search and/or provide more/other options for users to find stuff. In the very beginning, there was only item search form, then users feedback on wanting to find items via cards so items queries were integrated into card pages. With the game released, there are yet more varied requests so I'll gradually add them as we go along.

I will be adding more categories, so yes... those will be happening. Everytime a category is created, the wiki has to populate it which consumes time and bandwidth. Generally, I tend to stagger the addition of major backend structures to reduce unnecessary load and maintain stability.

Only item and card data are updated via botscripts (handled by Jayce and myself) and protected templates, hence are off-limits to the casual contributor. All other aspects of the wiki can be freely edited in accordance to the wiki policy. If you have prior Mediawiki/wiki editing experience, feel free to contribute. Alternatively, browsing the various guides/articles and copying identical formats work too.

 

Ok, thanks for the info and great to hear about the new categories! To avoid misinterpretation, with the offer of labor I was referring specifically to the creation of new categories, otherwise I'll stick to item drop research. I think I can contribute more there. I'll keep the wiki editing in mind in any case should something pop up which feels like an appropriate fit.