Aloyzo's Arsenal Official SUBMISSION Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Card Hunter General Chat' started by Flaxative, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    @Kalin, huh, you're right, it's nowhere nearly as prominent as I thought. I didn't dig through all my cards, but I did find that kind of frill on two technically inconclusive cards (since they don't show the boot-wearer's ears): Entangling Roots and Elvish Scamper; the former I actually doubt is an elf because of the blue pants, whereas the latter almost begs you to assume it's an elf due to slotting (despite Skip), title, and green/earthy tones.

    To you and @Sir Veza, I suppose between Elvish Scamper and the general pointy/earth-tones motif, the fiery boot image always looked elven to me. Regarding the colors, Fleet is the only card I saw/recall 1. associated with elves, 2. not explicitly showing another race, and 3. not green/brown/earthy; however, it could be argued its hue is more a Nightling association: see its wings (and Drow Rapidity's title) and the hues of Creature Of The Night, Vampire's Kiss, Vampiric Form, Zombie Form (and Spark Of Undeath), and Walpurgis Night.

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    And Kalin, what quality should we assign to a card that's Cantrip? $:^ }
     
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  2. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    You know BM considers this effect a Boost and not a Handicap, right? (I'll add Arrogant Armor's image when the wiki cooperates again.)
     
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  3. Testlum

    Testlum Lizardman Priest

    So I completely forgot that Arrogant Armor existed in the first place. I think I'll be changing my entry anyway, so I'll leave it be for now.
     
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  4. orian34

    orian34 Orc Soldier

    That's why I had it only work for allies, but it seems like the code doesn't allow something like that without adding more blocks.
     
  5. Tiac

    Tiac Kobold

    On the topic of Vengeance, how about:
    [​IMG]
    Martyr's Protection
    Unholy Attack
    Each time target plays a damaging Attack, they discard their oldest card. Range 6. Duration 2.
    (I can't tell if AttachedDiscardOnPlayComponent allows me to restrict it to attacks)

    or,

    [​IMG]
    Tarnishing Bolt
    Electric Attack
    Target character discards all Silver cards.
    Damage 4. Range 6.
     
  6. Kalin

    Kalin Begat G'zok

    A Savage Curse without the buff should be easy to do, so long as the discard happens under the same conditions. But this doesn't really help against Vengeance, since the character will already have used it to get in your face before playing any attacks.

    I was going to comment on how no current features trigger on card quality, then realized you meant damage type. Discarding by damage type is only used by SelfDiscardByTypeComponent (Drained Battery) so may not currently be supported for targeted cards.
     
  7. hello world

    hello world Hydra

    I'm a little surprised that the book was the last image to be used, and that there is now at least a card for each image.

    Also I hope that people that liked my card realized that it always hits the caster, hoped the flavor would make it clear, but now I'm unsure.

    And I was thinking something like, " fate is not only inescapable, but sometime even a little too far reaching" as flavor text.
     
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  8. Kalin

    Kalin Begat G'zok

    I made a deliberate effort to come up with at least one idea for every image, so I now have about 30 ideas, but I'm not terribly happy with any of them. The book was one of the hardest to fit an idea to (card names: Scholars Without Borders and Gideon's Guide to Tactics).

    Caltrops also does the "range 2, burst 2" thing.
     
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  9. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    speaking of the hand-on-book image, thanks @Sir Veza for the Rules Lawyer class:

    Swear the Truth
    (hand on book image)
    Attack, Range 4, Magic Holy
    some decent-nice quality
    Uncommon probably
    Attach to target. Duration 2.
    At the start of each round, target reveals their hand.
    Flavor text re: truth, justice, and the Cardhuntrian way? I dunno. [insert Rules Lawyer joke here at any rate]

    If anyone's looking for an idea to submit. $¦^ J

    (Meanwhile, I've only half-considered any flavor text for Heightened Senses Blazing Reflexes. I oughtta get back onto that.)
     
  10. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    Flak finally answered, attachment most likely won't work, and the contest closes tomorrow. Man, I'm still stuck between Free Card or not. Of course we'd prefer to use Free Card, but if our opponents have it? Besides "discard oldest card" counterplay, there's not much one can do -- but then, that's where Ready to Strike and Quick Reactions are, too, except RtS and QR do something by themselves while in hand. With mine, though, even with other cards in hand being Moves, there's only so much stacking one can do because, unlike Armor that's generally intended to stay put and decrease damage over time (plus have other effects), Moves are generally intended to be used. Okay. I think I've convinced myself Free Card on Blazing Reflexes.

    EDIT: The perfectionist has finally posted this thing. http://forums.cardhunter.com/threads/aloyzos-arsenal-26-design-a-card.11943/page-3#post-136371 Even if it doesn't win, I'm satisfied with the card. Big thanks again to everyone who gave input! $:^ )

    @Kalin: Discard two specified cards of a type? Linear? -- meaning potential multiple characters and no way to trigger many of the very cards it'd discard (Dodge etc.)? Immediately (taking out blocks afterward)? With some piddly electrical damage which can be buffed easily as well? That sounds like so much more than silver quality... I recall silver-quality Short Perplexing Ray being called OP for discarding 2 random cards at range 3...
     
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  11. orian34

    orian34 Orc Soldier

    @ParodyKnaveBob
    It's interesting, but I don't really understand when you roll dices to move?
    Seeing your post made me think of another version:

    Brazen Speed (Boost card)
    • When you play a move card, add 1 to it and gain Free Move. Keep.
     
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  12. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    @orian34: There are some Move cards that have die rolls on them. Blazing Reflexes would affect those. Your suggested Brazen Speed is akin to Fleet, already in the game.
     
  13. orian34

    orian34 Orc Soldier

    oh, right. Fleet gives some armor I think?
    Also, I just tried to look but except for laser rolls, slowed, armor and boost hybrid cards, that's all.
    That would mean your Blazing Reflexes increases armor rolls and dodge chance. I'm not sure how I'd feel having 1/2 chance to dodge an attack with 1 dodge or reflex teleport. With free card you could stack 2 of those. It feels a little too good.

    edit: now that I checked again, if it boosts moves, then there's nothing that rolls dices except the rocket dash, because of the way hybrid cards work.
     
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  14. hello world

    hello world Hydra

    @Sir Veza.

    You might want to up the quality of your card since drawing 3 cards has only been done at amethyst for now, even if your submission is probably worse than delegate(less powerful if saved to the end of turn, run is probably a better card than most things a character can draw from their deck, works worse if you lost a character)
     
  15. Sir Veza

    Sir Veza Farming Deity

    @hello world
    You're right, but there are at least 3 submissions I like better than mine, so I'll leave mine flawed.
     
  16. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    @orian34 Correct on all points. You've missed a lot of discussion (that actually started a year or two ago). It could've been interesting to be a Trait so that it'd be easier to put more in a deck, but Flak said he'd try to build the mechanic locally (using a hodge-podge of different components that might not jel), and as I feared, it didn't seem to work. Therefore, even as not a Free Card, I figured you couldn't get more than one in a deck, hence my going ahead and marking it as Free Card.
     
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  17. orian34

    orian34 Orc Soldier

    The small bit about the stacking 2 was stacking 2 dodges or reflex teleport with 1 sense in free card. So you'd have 2 boosted rolls.
     
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  18. seth arue

    seth arue Thaumaturge

    @ParodyKnaveBob I'd really love for that Boost to be made... it'd certainly make your adventures with Myx'd a bit easier, eh? =P
     
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  19. tolkien

    tolkien Thaumaturge

    Any luck boost is going to have to be limited like PKB's idea because with the abundance of unreliable blocks possible, I doubt a simple straight boost to rolls will happen.
     
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