Aloyzo's Arsenal Official SUBMISSION Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Card Hunter General Chat' started by Flaxative, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. SceoMyntan

    SceoMyntan Fire Demon

    If you're thinking of changing stuff up, personally I kind of liked the idea you first talked about in chat, the shield that thwarts popular builds— I feel like most submissions so far have gone for plays on guild names rather than the principles they follow, so that was something a bit different.

    I feel like now your theme is going back and forth between meta-breaking and literal wall-breaking and that's making the item seem less cohesive.
  2. Founder

    Founder Hydra

    Yeah, you might be right. Someone said that step moves and bursts weren't showing up in the metagame too much right now, so auto shield and pushback weren't up to much and might actually make it worse. I don't know what you people want! :p
  3. Robauke

    Robauke Guild Leader

    i didnt get that you wanted to round up anti-meta cards and just went with a more scifi name... i though you just went literal like i did. Wall (Protection) Breaking.
  4. Deepweed

    Deepweed Thaumaturge

    What do you guys think of my submission?

    Aloyzo's Arsenal #12: Custom Item Submissions!

    Ironwood Iron Will
    (Human Skill)

    The idea is mostly based on the play on words - X would, X will and the figurative iron will. With the cards, I tried to capture the feel of Ironwood in general. In terms of how balanced the item is, well, I think I'd actually use it. I think the overall power level isn't too high, but I may be mistaken.

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  5. Robauke

    Robauke Guild Leader

    Name could be shorter, I think Iron Will could be enough of a reference, or Ironwood Will if you wanna deliver the connection hammerstyle. I would even look at other words to follow the Iron(wood), Iron Vim, Ironwood Tenets, Iron Resolve etc.
  6. timeracers

    timeracers Guild Leader

    Items can have both a regular name and a short name.
  7. tolkien

    tolkien Thaumaturge

    What about "99 sharkbears walking on fire"
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  8. Kalin

    Kalin Begat G'zok

    I don't think they want Mighty Charge on staves (or anywhere). Now if you changed it to "9 Sharkbears on Fire" and made it a martial or dwarf skill with Feinting Strike, Mighty Charge, and Combustible, that might have a better chance. Assuming Mighty would be changed to Silver, it would be a level 9 item.
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  9. wereviper

    wereviper Ogre

    I just realized that it was a wizard weapon too! lol thought it could of been a warrior or priest weapon with the charge.
  10. Lord Feleran

    Lord Feleran Guild Leader

    Why not just 2 Walks?
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  11. Founder

    Founder Hydra

    I wondered if there was some way of making a half-decent submission using cards which made the rainbow (in honour of that guild). Best I could come up with was a very slidy weapon:

    Barge, Bash, Blind Rage, Pushback Parry, Violent Spin, Ooze Shove.

    Divine weapons and staves are even harder.

    Anyone think there's any mileage in this?
  12. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    I would totally use it, but I didn't get how the cards connected to the guild flavor at all (sorry to say).
  13. Robauke

    Robauke Guild Leader

    Please folks, well flavoured items are nice, but while designing, mind universally better, existing alternatives that will condemn your item to not being played at all, not to mention a lost opportunity to enrich the item pool with a true novelty. I'm not sure this concerns Flaxative when selecting winners, but we got it in our hands.
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  14. gulo gulo

    gulo gulo Guild Leader

    It makes perfect sense for Ironwood, actually. We attempt to use inspirational and forward thinking to come up with great new builds, but that's often a dangerous maneuver, and can end up hurting us in the long run. I think @Deepweed hit that one right on the nose.
  15. Magic Elves

    Magic Elves Thaumaturge

    Plus a lot of us could always use better human skills.
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  16. tolkien

    tolkien Thaumaturge

    @ParodyKnaveBob I like the 99 theme of your item. I like "99 knaves walking on fire" for a name though. And I would rearrange it so that it's values are in the more traditional order of high quality to low quality.

    What's even harder is to line it up so that the quality correctly aligns in order of the rainbow as well. What about smashing spin instead of violent spin? What about parry or jarring block instead of pushback parry? What about quick reactions instead of blind rage?

    How about Double Rainbow Oh-my-ger?
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  17. Scarponi

    Scarponi Moderator

  18. ParodyKnaveBob

    ParodyKnaveBob Thaumaturge

    @gulo gulo, I suppose I don't see that as a defining characteristic since many guilds would say the exact same thing. $F^ J

    @tolkien, thank you. I considered some much simpler names for my item. Mind you, though, it should be clear (for more than one reason) this item is neither going to be picked nor intended to be. (lol) Meanwhile, I played with card order some, and Feint-OSpark-Impale just seemed prettiest to me.

    Fwiw, I considered a more "real" entry of something like Impale-Feint-Fiery on a Weapon ..because 6 stab + 3 burning .. and .. naaaah. $F^ b

    My more serious thoughts on all this are that I don't really have any decent ideas that haven't already been done. I considered Double Rainbow and St.Exe for some laughs, but the former's done, and the latter might be even more obscure (since at least DR has "the very first guild" going for it). On that note, since DR's the first guild and not "prone to bias" (not the right phrase I'm looking for, but I'm tired and rushing,) due to inactivity, I suspect that a solid item for it will win. Of course, I've been wrong before (with Make Haste, coincidentally from St.Exe's founder and principal and entire membership, giving us two (majortoken) human skills with Delegate instead of the obvious AI helmet gap getting filled ~shrug~).
  19. tolkien

    tolkien Thaumaturge

    @Founder i think there's some hope for the double rainbow ogre-style. If you're not going to pick it up, i might change my submission.
  20. Founder

    Founder Hydra

    I wasn't going to go for the rainbow idea. Best I could come up with was:

    [any attack] [Blind Rage OR Boosted Heal (Blind Rage is more orange)] [Consecrate Ground OR Bless] [Lifesaving Block] [Violent Spin] [Purge]

    But I still prefer the idea of a decent one-token weapon, and I think the rainbow weapon would be ignored as it would be a bit rubbish.

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