Test Build 3.137 (12 May 2016)

Can't wait til this becomes a live build .

 

MM #16 battle 2 intro:
dennisons -> denizens

Battle 2 is too hard. The combo of poison on most enemies and mushroom encumbrance and the occasional Trip is a deadly one. Nice way to cut down the gnomes before getting anything done. Way too many restarts required even after figuring out the trick.

Battle 3 is unplayably hard. I could not finish it. EDIT: Five party wipes Five revives (adventure total) are enough for me (fifteen full party deaths). Yes, I figured out the trick, it's not that.

There should not be a combo of vamps, healers and (gnome health relative) hard-hitting ranged enemies. I can get the elves down to one or two but at that point I never have enough health left to take on the stragglers. I'm not having fun at all.

Having Ouch in the gnome deck is the cherry on top. It's not even possible to wait for the top attacks to accumulate after taking one yellow square before luring the last enemy into an ambush. The Ouch death clock takes care of that tactic, the last resort I was capable of in any of my attempts.

 

I've noticed the PCs aren't included yet. And I think we're missing the normal mode version of the Negative Planar Portals and hard mode Rolling Boulder. Also, I can't see any difference between normal and hard mode Poison Elementals.

 

I edited my post above. I realised I described the number of retries inaccurately.

 

I didn't put them in, nor the variant poison elementals they spawn, because of the happy birthday/present launch mechanics.

The hard mode portals spawn the hard mode elementals.

How are other people doing with MM16? It's pretty reliably beatable for me.

Jarmo - on the 2nd battle - did you find the river crossing before the bridge? Makes it way easier. I can beat this map without ever engaging the fungus warrior.

 

Yes. The fungus warrior still often encumbered and poisoned the gnomes before they would get across. It's not unsurmountable but it wasn't enjoyable having to redo it so many times even after learning the trick. It's not the real problem with the adventure, though.

The real problem is battle 3. One of the elements should be changed. If there are healers, they can't be vamps. If there are ranged casters, they need to hit less hard. Or Ouch needs to be removed from the gnome deck. Or the number of enemies should be reduced. Even changing the Fort Knoxed wizard attacks to weaker ones would make the battle possible. For me, every time I moved in for the final assault the attackers had so little health left the wizard and/or the guardian priest slaughtered them.

 

This hasn't shown up for me. How do I get it to show?

 

Are you looking on the test server?

 

Oh. Thanks!

 

I can beat them reliably, I'm not sure why the 3rd battle needs 3 doors to get to the top vp. I end up spending most of that level beating down those doors while they get healed which is pretty boring.

 

I'm trying them now.

Already found a bug on the first map: one of the bushes is Open terrain.

Spoiler

 

Try teleporting or flying
(You don't need to kill all enemies to win)

 

I tried that, and the elf chick blocked my attack and killed me with a zap.

So instead, I used Wild to kill the hiding priest to stop the clock, then slowly worked my way through the other doors. In the end, I had 4 defeats on the first map, 3 on second, and 2 on third (and got a Reality Warper in the club slot).

They're not the hardest MMs, but I'm not looking forward to doing it again on the live server.

 

That way isn't reliable enough with only one teleporter, I just took the single VP and then beat down the doors because the AI won't take the 2nd vp.

 

The AI can't pass through the doors because they're standing on difficult terrain.