Merciful killer robots?

Discussion in 'Bugs' started by DarkDain, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. DarkDain

    DarkDain Goblin Champion

    So fighting some of these ori..thi..po...orni..pothop..robo-ravens. They're just flying around me at the moment, theirs two of them right ontop of my guys but Gary opted to skip his turn and throw out two Buzzsaw attack cards they could of just USED on me instead.

    I didnt have any armor cards on me but two of my cards were unknown to them, might they be putting too much importance on the armor cutting power, rather than the damage ? Waiting for armor ? No other current factors that would prevent them from attacking me =/
  2. Jon

    Jon Blue Manchu Staff Member

    The AI does pass sometimes when you don't expect it to. Sometimes this can screw up your plans if, for example, you were passing hoping to trick it into playing first.
  3. Zalminen

    Zalminen Hydra

    Thread necromancy...

    I've been playing the early adventures with new heroes (so I can finish those all elves/humans/dwarves/etc. quests) and played through the wizard's workshop multiple times during the process.

    Either the RNG is going totally crazy or the ornithopters still have trouble actually using the Buzzsaw cards.
    During all the fights against them I only saw them using a Buzzsaw card ONCE, and at least on three occasions times they discarded Buzzsaw cards after having passed several times before that. And yes, each time one of them was in melee range the whole time and hadn't used an attack that turn.

    Ember Sprays they do use normally so I'm fairly sure there's a bug there instead of just being caused by Gary's random passing.
  4. Zoorland

    Zoorland Goblin Champion

    I only see Ornithopters use Buzzsaw if one of your characters has a revealed Armor card. If you don't have any armor, they won't use it to attack you. If you have armor but it hasn't been revealed yet, they won't attack you with it. But as soon as an Armor card is revealed they don't hesitate to hit that character with Buzzsaw. That's my experience, at any rate.

    I think it's just an artifact of the AI's priorities on card usage. One of the more understandable ones, as far as I'm concerned.
  5. Sir Knight

    Sir Knight Sir-ulean Dragon

    Yes, I've seen this too. And I've forgotten what other "situational" cards like this the AI gets, but I'm sure I've seen them "wait for an opening" at the cost of never playing a card. The "Geomancers refuse to drop another terrain modifier on you if you're already standing on modified terrain" issue might be the same deal.

    It sounds good as a first pass on enemy priorities, but I hope someday they'll get an extra instruction like "roll a die: on a 6, use your 'situational' card anyway."

    Edit: Oh, right, one of those cards was Blob Of Slime. Slime enemies may be able to kill you with another of those ugly 6-damage cards, but they won't bother if you already have one attached. So here we have "don't apply terrain if the target is already on a terrain attachment," "don't apply a new copy of this character attachment if the target has an old one," and "don't use this specific-card-removing ability if the target has yet to reveal a copy of said card," even when using any of these cards would kill the target, or even when the alternative is to discard the valuable card completely.
  6. Wozarg

    Wozarg Thaumaturge

    I have been blobed while already blobed by the orange ones.
  7. Zalminen

    Zalminen Hydra

    Having the enemies save a situational card for a better opening is fine.
    When they don't attack at all and instead choose to discard the situational card feels more like a bug than a feature.
  8. Pengw1n

    Pengw1n Moderately Informed Staff Member

    I've been blobbed a lot while already blobbed - so I think the damage part makes them use the card even when you're affected.

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