Vibrant Pain and Nimble strike are not unbalanced

I've felt the need to weigh in on the ongoing balance debates, especially since the current players who are talking are so obviously biased in their opinions. First of all, and lets make this absolutely clear, vibrant pain is in the rarest category of items in the game. It's a level 18 legendary, that is not easy to get, regardless of how much you grind. There is no epidemic of people with vibrant pain, it is not a problem. I mean seriously, you people are complaining that the rarest item in the game is awesome? It's the rarest item in the game, if it wasn't awesome, you would all be complaining that the devs didn't know how to create high level items.

However, while scared little girl may go on screeds about how the developers are ruining the game by making a super rare weapon, and here that is:

Well scaredlittlegirl, i'll tell you why it's not happening, it's only, and I repeat, the only tool for warriors to compete in this wizard dominated meta. Do you guys see the bias? Scared plays control wizards, and has in fact had a large role in their popularity in the current meta. And then she turns around and complains about one of the very few counters to control wizards. Scared has even acknowledged that control wizards are way over powered and incredibly consistent. see here:

Control wizards don't just dominate the top levels of the meta, they ARE the top level meta. Campaigning to nerf an item and a card that directly threatens your list, and even then NOT that effectively, is disingenuous. Vibrant pain and nimble strike is not the biggest problem facing the current meta balance, it's control wizards.

 

If it is truly the only way for warriors to compete, then Vibrant Pain (and other warrior weapons with Nimble strike) needs to be a common item.

 

SLG also wants to nerf Winds of War...
Can we talk about these cards without questioning the character of some of the game's best and most concerned players?

 

I'm not questioning scaredlittlegirls character, I'm just pointing out the fact that the group who play control wizards, and the group that wishes for a nerf to step attacks are basically the same. Advocating for an already successful build of your own creation to be made more powerful in the meta speaks for itself.

@checkers

There's many ways for a warrior or priest to put step attacks into their build, everyone fixates on vibrant pain because it's the rarest and best way to do that. But there are many common and uncommon items of various levels that have them.

 

I mean, I don't run 3DC and I think nimble strike is a problem. *shrug*

 

Why make a thread to flame one person's opinion?

 

I just wanted to challenge the conventional opinion, and I chose quotes from it's loudest advocate.

 

I think most people think 3DC needs some kind of nerf.

 

Any discussion of OPness is incomplete without considering 3 OP cards: nimble strike, SPR and WoW. Maybe the game is actually balanced by the OPness of the three. I dont know. But I think changing one without touching the other two could easily shift the composition of the most dominant setup.

 

@ player1

valid point, but that's exactly what happened when the devs nerfed draw. And if wizards lose the ability to completely dominate the battlefield, the obviously warriors will probably need a debuff as well, but I would like to point out that despite the nimble strike hate, it's tri-wizards, not tri-warriors that are the problem currently.

 

To YoYoTheAssyrian,

You can always make threads discussing why a certain card is or isn't balanced without having to bring other posters directly into the thread. If they wish to comment, then that's great. The other option is to talk to them in a thread that's already happening about the cards in question. Just an FYI. You don't need a complete and separate thread just to challenge someone else's POV.

Using words like "screeds" are unneeded.

 

Note that I am not defending any person's position here and that I think a healthy discussion is the only way to really get to the heart of the matter.