Elvish Insight can be blocked?

Discussion in 'Bugs' started by IonDragonX, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. IonDragonX

    IonDragonX Kobold

    Sorry I can't be sure that this is a bug or not.

    Elvish Insight isn't an attack. Is is supposed to be block-able???
     
  2. Kalin

    Kalin Begat G'zok

    Anything your enemy attempts to do to you will be blocked, including healing spells.
     
  3. Sir Knight

    Sir Knight Sir-ulean Dragon

    Yes. Exploit this.

    Hello, Bungled Heal when the enemy is at full health.
     
  4. j-wiz

    j-wiz Blue Manchu Staff Member

    Gentlecow, Pokemath and Pengw1n like this.
  5. progammer

    progammer Ogre

    It is, in fact, an attack card, with a red background.
     
  6. IonDragonX

    IonDragonX Kobold

    Like I said, I wasn't sure if it was a bug.
    Finger of Death is an attack card with a damage of zero.... soooooo why isn't Insight the same???
     
  7. Pengw1n

    Pengw1n Moderately Informed Staff Member

    I think you mean Touch Of Death, but agree - however, I believe this is more an issue with the card mentioned (I can't recall any other attack cards with an actual 0 value) than Elvish Insight. Suggest they remove the 0 from ToD, to avoid confusing players.
     
  8. progammer

    progammer Ogre

    They actually add it in to remove confusion. Attack with dmg of 0 can be increased (By Unholy Wellspring) while attack without damage component will not deal dmg no matter what.
     
  9. Kalin

    Kalin Begat G'zok

    Right, while Maze and War Cry can't get boosted.
     
  10. smeata

    smeata Mushroom Warrior

    Makes sense to me
     
  11. Pengw1n

    Pengw1n Moderately Informed Staff Member

    Very good point there, I'll retract my argument as it seems as a clear case of WAI.
     
  12. IonDragonX

    IonDragonX Kobold

    Okay, that makes sense, but it doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't be able to dodge or block someone else's knowledge.
     
  13. pliers

    pliers Goblin Champion

    They're casting a mind-reading spell on you. You block it.
     
  14. IonDragonX

    IonDragonX Kobold

    With no line of sight required and no target required. Therefore, it comes from nowhere and goes to nowhere. Therefore, you can't block it.
     
  15. progammer

    progammer Ogre

    It comes from the sky and goes to all characters, yours included. Just like firestorm.

    Though i'd say its not a mind reader spell, your own characters and the opponent's is revealing the cards for everyone (spectator included). It's a mechanics things that is beyond the character's world. I won't argue that it is some spell that the opponent see and just block without thinking. Mechanically speaking, its an attack/spell effect being casted from a non-ally, block will happen. It's the rules of the game.
     
  16. pliers

    pliers Goblin Champion

    There's no LoS/target required on a lot of spells. Why does that matter?
     

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