What is the shortest method to get most gold pieces (gp)

I've also gathered data over a longer period about level 17 adventure loot from many runs of "CardStock II Secret Preview" battles 1 and 2 and also "Lair of the Yellow Dragon" battles 1-3 and a little bit of "Dungeon of the Swamp King" battles 1-3. No one has reported a difference between the loot drops of different same level adventures coming from the same kind of chests so I lump them all together when collecting data.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
13	4	0	0	0	0	4	1,3 %
14	2	2	1	0	0	5	1,7 %
15	47	17	1	0	0	65	21,7 %
16	32	5	2	2	0	41	13,7 %
17	55	17	1	0	0	73	24,3 %
18	86	22	4	0	0	112	37,3 %
Tot	226	63	9	2	0	300	
	75,3 %	21,0 %	3,0 %	0,7 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
13	4	0	0	0	0	4	
14	0	0	0	0	0	0	
15	0	0	0	0	0	0	
16	0	0	0	0	0	0	
17	28	11	0	0	0	39	
18	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	32	11	0	0	0	43	14,3 %

 

Adding all of the loot numbers so far in this thread together we get the following:

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Level	Common	Uncomm.	Rare	Epic	Legend.	Total	Player
3	210	59	24	6	1	300	Jarmo
6	75	20	4	1	0	100	Andrew Talbot
16	77	18	4	1	0	100	Jarmo
12	15	5	0	0	0	20	Hatchhermit
17	95	31	7	1	1	135	Aldones
3	60	11	0	1	0	72	Arondight
2	151	42	4	2	1	200	Jarmo
6	238	45	12	5	0	300	Jarmo
9	76	20	4	0	0	100	Tempo
12	87	10	6	1	0	104	ArtificerProdigy
13	82	19	3	1	0	105	ArtificerProdigy
5	156	36	6	2	0	200	Jarmo
7	230	59	8	2	1	300	Jarmo
17	67	16	4	0	0	87	Piotras
15	109	28	11	0	2	150	Astropsica
7	234	59	5	2	0	300	Jarmo
3	223	66	8	2	1	300	Jarmo
6	208	71	15	6	0	300	Jarmo
17	226	63	9	2	0	300	Jarmo
Total	2619	678	134	35	7	3473	
%	75,41 %	19,52 %	3,86 %	1,01 %	0,20 %		

These are the most reliable figures we currently have for the chances of getting an item of a certain rarity in a common single player chest. So for example, we now know that the chance of a legendary dropping when farming common battles is 0.2 % or one legendary per 500 items dropped. They are pretty rare, all right.

 

Note that the above figures are based on the assumption that the rarity percentages are the same for different level adventures. We don't know that for sure yet. There might be some more complex interaction between the item level and rarity and the adventure level and maybe even some other factor(s) influencing this. I feel the above figures are still useful as an average yardstick when evaluating loot drop issues. We have data from 11 different adventure levels so it should be a pretty good average of the total single player loot system.

 

I really like this project, Jarmo. Thanks for compiling all this knowledge. I'll see if I can't add some figures to this dataset soon.

 

QFT - I've been following this thread closely. I'd contribute, but I know from past experience with other games if I farm same map a billion times (or even just 100) I start hating the game, the universe and everything. So I'll just cheer the mighty farmers from the sidelines.

 

Graph from another thread

 

I played the level 6 adventure The Defense of Woodhome battles 1 and 2 for a further 100 times.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	11	1	0	0	0	12	4,0 %
4	12	2	0	0	0	14	4,7 %
5	72	18	3	0	0	93	31,0 %
6	85	30	5	2	0	122	40,7 %
7	29	15	3	1	0	48	16,0 %
8	3	0	1	0	0	4	1,3 %
9	6	0	0	1	0	7	2,3 %
Tot	218	66	12	4	0	300	
	72,7 %	22,0 %	4,0 %	1,3 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	0	0	0	0	0	0	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	36	5	2	0	0	43	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	1	0	1	
8	0	0	0	0	0	0	
9	1	0	0	0	0	1	
Tot	37	5	2	1	0	45	15,0 %

 

If we add this result to Andrew's and my earlier runs from here the numbers look like this:

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Lv	Andrew	Jarmo	Jarmo2	Jarmo3	All	%
3	3	18	11	12	44	4,4 %
4	2	13	13	14	42	4,2 %
5	26	76	76	93	271	27,1 %
6	48	145	137	122	452	45,2 %
7	18	39	50	48	155	15,5 %
8	2	2	3	4	11	1,1 %
9	2	7	10	7	26	2,6 %
Tot	101	300	300	300	1001	

If we compare the numbers after 701 and 1001 dropped items we see that the level percentages are still shifting as much as 1.9 percentage points. Even 1001 drops don't seem to be enough to stabilise the numbers. We need even more data to get an accurate reading. I wish I knew what the margins of error are for different values of n in this case.

 

And if we combine my three runs which were broken down in more detail we get the following.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	36	2	2	1	0	41	4,6 %
4	34	5	1	0	0	40	4,4 %
5	184	49	8	4	0	245	27,2 %
6	293	86	18	7	0	404	44,9 %
7	91	36	8	2	0	137	15,2 %
8	7	1	1	0	0	9	1,0 %
9	19	3	1	1	0	24	2,7 %
Tot	664	182	39	15	0	900	
	73,8 %	20,2 %	4,3 %	1,7 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	0	0	0	0	0	0	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	89	17	6	3	0	115	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	1	0	1	
8	0	0	0	0	0	0	
9	4	2	0	0	0	6	
Tot	93	19	6	4	0	122	13,6 %

 

I played various level 17 adventure levels (not the final ones) a further 100 times (earlier run here -- top of this same page, actually).

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
13	7	0	0	0	0	7	2,3 %
14	0	0	0	0	0	0	0,0 %
15	45	10	4	2	0	61	20,3 %
16	28	6	2	0	0	36	12,0 %
17	48	14	4	2	0	68	22,7 %
18	98	24	4	2	0	128	42,7 %
Tot	226	54	14	6	0	300	
	75,3 %	18,0 %	4,7 %	2,0 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
13	7	0	0	0	0	7	
14	0	0	0	0	0	0	
15	0	0	0	0	0	0	
16	0	0	0	0	0	0	
17	26	9	2	2	0	39	
18	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	33	9	2	2	0	46	15,3 %

 

These are the combined numbers for the two level 17 adventure runs.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
13	11	0	0	0	0	11	1,8 %
14	2	2	1	0	0	5	0,8 %
15	92	27	5	2	0	126	21,0 %
16	60	11	4	2	0	77	12,8 %
17	103	31	5	2	0	141	23,5 %
18	184	46	8	2	0	240	40,0 %
Tot	452	117	23	8	0	600	
	150,7 %	39,0 %	7,7 %	2,7 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
13	11	0	0	0	0	11	
14	0	0	0	0	0	0	
15	0	0	0	0	0	0	
16	0	0	0	0	0	0	
17	54	20	2	2	0	78	
18	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	65	20	2	2	0	89	14,8 %

 

I played various level 7 adventure battles (not the final ones) a further 100 times. The previous run is here.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
4	4	0	1	0	0	5	1,7 %
5	38	12	3	1	0	54	18,0 %
6	100	32	12	2	0	146	48,7 %
7	42	13	1	0	0	56	18,7 %
8	10	9	0	0	0	19	6,3 %
9	15	0	2	0	0	17	5,7 %
10	3	0	0	0	0	3	1,0 %
Tot	212	66	19	3	0	300	
	70,7 %	22,0 %	6,3 %	1,0 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	31	10	3	1	0	45	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	0	0	0	
8	0	0	0	0	0	0	
9	3	0	1	0	0	4	
10	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	34	10	4	1	0	49	16,3 %

 

These are the combined numbers for the three level 7 adventure runs.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
4	5	1	1	0	0	7	0,8 %
5	126	31	3	1	0	161	17,9 %
6	318	86	18	5	0	427	47,4 %
7	130	40	4	0	1	175	19,4 %
8	47	22	3	1	0	73	8,1 %
9	43	4	3	0	0	50	5,6 %
10	7	0	0	0	0	7	0,8 %
Tot	676	184	32	7	1	900	
	75,1 %	20,4 %	3,6 %	0,8 %	0,1 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	96	25	3	1	0	125	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	0	0	0	
8	0	0	3	0	0	3	
9	8	1	1	0	0	10	
10	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	104	26	7	1	0	138	15,3 %

 

The biggest difference between the level 7 numbers after 600 and 900 item drops is 0.9 percentage points. Not as large a difference as for the level 6 numbers.

 

I played various level 3 adventure battles (not the blah blah) a further 100 times. The previous run is here.

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
1	41	11	1	1	0	54	18,0 %
2	61	5	2	0	0	68	22,7 %
3	102	28	6	0	0	136	45,3 %
4	20	7	3	1	0	31	10,3 %
5	7	2	0	0	0	9	3,0 %
6	0	1	1	0	0	2	0,7 %
Tot	231	54	13	2	0	300	
	77,0 %	18,0 %	4,3 %	0,7 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
1	6	8	0	1	0	15	
2	16	0	0	0	0	16	
3	7	0	0	0	0	7	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	5	1	0	0	0	6	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Tot	34	9	0	1	0	44	14,7 %

 

The combined results of the three sessions on that map (I didn't break down the first session in as much detail):

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All							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
1						167	18,6 %
2						228	25,3 %
3						360	40,0 %
4						99	11,0 %
5						33	3,7 %
6						13	1,4 %
Tot	664	179	45	10	2	900	
	73,8 %	19,9 %	5,0 %	1,1 %	0,2 %		

 

The biggest difference between the level 3 numbers after 600 and 900 item drops is 2.7 percentage points. Biggest difference so far caused by adding 300 drops to the numbers -- and a relatively big one at that. The numbers after 900 drops seem still too unreliable for my taste.

 

Adding the four new runs to the grand totals we get the following:

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Level	Common	Uncomm.	Rare	Epic	Legend.	Total	Player
3	210	59	24	6	1	300	Jarmo
6	75	20	4	1	0	100	Andrew Talbot
16	77	18	4	1	0	100	Jarmo
12	15	5	0	0	0	20	Hatchhermit
17	95	31	7	1	1	135	Aldones
3	60	11	0	1	0	72	Arondight
2	151	42	4	2	1	200	Jarmo
6	238	45	12	5	0	300	Jarmo
9	76	20	4	0	0	100	Tempo
12	87	10	6	1	0	104	ArtificerProdigy
13	82	19	3	1	0	105	ArtificerProdigy
5	156	36	6	2	0	200	Jarmo
7	230	59	8	2	1	300	Jarmo
17	67	16	4	0	0	87	Piotras
15	109	28	11	0	2	150	Astropsica
7	234	59	5	2	0	300	Jarmo
3	223	66	8	2	1	300	Jarmo
6	208	71	15	6	0	300	Jarmo
17	226	63	9	2	0	300	Jarmo
6	218	66	12	4	0	300	Jarmo
17	226	54	14	6	0	300	Jarmo
7	212	66	19	3	0	300	Jarmo
3	231	54	13	2	0	300	Jarmo
Total	3506	918	192	50	7	4673	
%	75.03 %	19.64 %	4.11 %	1.07 %	0.15 %		

The biggest difference to the previous numbers is -0.38 percentage points so they seem pretty stable after 4,673 total drops. The notable thing is the lowered number for Legendaries. I got none in my latest runs and this brought the figure down to 0.15 %.

 

I decided to try the money-farming level for the first time to see how much more you can make. I played the level 6 adventure "Diamonds of the Kobolds" battles 1 and 2 for a combned one hundred times.

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Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	15	0	0	0	0	15	5,0 %
4	11	2	0	0	0	13	4,3 %
5	122	29	5	0	0	156	52,0 %
6	53	15	2	3	0	73	24,3 %
7	18	14	2	1	0	35	11,7 %
8	1	0	0	0	0	1	0,3 %
9	4	1	2	0	0	7	2,3 %
Tot	224	61	11	4	0	300	
	74,7 %	20,3 %	3,7 %	1,3 %	0,0 %		
							
Treasure							
Lv	C	U	R	E	L	Tot	
3	0	0	0	0	0	0	
4	0	0	0	0	0	0	
5	97	20	4	0	0	121	
6	0	0	0	0	0	0	
7	0	0	0	0	0	0	
8	0	0	0	0	0	0	
9	1	0	0	0	0	1	
Tot	98	20	4	0	0	122	40,7 %

I'm not going to include these results with the others as the level has a special loot table. Some observations: The treasure % wasn't 50 as advertised but 40.7 in this run (with an error margin of several points, so let's see what happens with more data). I got treasure worth 556 gold. The regular items were worth 323 gold so the whole haul came to 879 gold.

I didn't record how long it took to do this, maybe around three hours. So this session produced a little under 300 gold per hour. I used a level 8 Firestorm Dwarf Wizard party with 27 Firestorms, 7 Ember Bursts and 1 Volcano, no trait cycling other than the 2 Combustibles on each of the 3 Staff of the Infernos the party carried.

 

I just realized something. When the F1 log is set to "verbose" mode it shows messages listing the item IDs looted from an opened chest. Using a saved log file and the Equipment.csv file it would be possible to write a piece of software that would automatically collate the loot data of a farming session. Now it's just a matter of performing the work of writing the utility SW.

Hmm, maybe an application already exists somewhere in the open SW universe which could be easily adapted for this purpose. File parsing and data collating are very common tasks. Surely someone has already created something that would require minimal adjustment for Card Hunter loot analysis and presentation.